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Taxi driver ‘knew something was wrong’ when suicide bomber got in cab

A taxi driver who unknowingly drove a suicide bomber to a Liverpool hospital has said he will always be ‘stuck in that situation’.

On Remembrance Sunday last year, David Perry picked up Emad Al-Swealmeen from his Sefton Park flat to drive him to the city’s Women’s Hospital.

As he pulled up outside, Al-Swealmeen pulled the trigger of his homemade explosive that tore through the taxi and left Perry burned and injured.

Al-Swealmeen, 32, was the only person to die in the blast, which was allegedly planned since April.

It’s the little details that haunt Perry, like trying to make small talk with Al-Swealmeen or the smell of burning flesh that followed the explosion, he told Good Morning Britain today.

‘When he got in, everything was wrong about it. He sank behind the seats, I couldn’t see him. All he said was “Women’s Hospital” and when I tried to make conversation there was no response,’ Perry said.

Editorial use only Mandatory Credit: Photo by Ken McKay/ITV/Shutterstock (13627308x) David Perry 'Good Morning Britain' TV show, London, UK - 17 Nov 2022
It’s the little details that haunt David Perry to this day, he said (Picture: Ken McKay/ITV/Shutterstock)
Aerial view of damaged car being removed by forensic officer after the explosion at the Liverpool Women's Hospital that killed one person and injured another on Sunday. Suspected terrorist Emad Al Swealmeen, 32, died after the device exploded in a taxi shortly before 11am on Remembrance Sunday. Picture date: Wednesday November 17, 2021. PA Photo. See PA story POLICE Hospital. Photo credit should read: Peter Byrne/PA Wire
The explosion happened just outside a hospital that treated pregnant people (Picture: PA)

‘I said “Do you have a wife or a baby” and there was just no response. So usually when a customer doesn’t talk back or respond to you, something’s wrong.’

‘I can remember the blast and I remember getting blown up. I remember thinking “Why has a waggon driven into the back me?” and then I was out but the actual drive and into the hospital I’ve got no recollection or memory of at all,’ he added.

‘It’s the smells. It’s looking in the mirror and seeing the scar on your head. It’s the smell of plastic.

‘It just reminds me of the actual car burning and him being all over me I was burning. So it’s a strange thing.’

Perry survived the ordeal but was badly injured by the blast, suffering a back fracture, burns, shrapnel wounds and burst ear drums.

Perry turned to humour to get him through the incident, even joking with officers: ‘The police said to me, “Did he say anything to you?” and I said, “Yeah, slow down or you’ll blow us up”.’

A surveillance camera footage shows a man extinguishing a burning taxi following an explosion, outside Liverpool Women's hospital in Liverpool, Britain November 14, 2021 in this still image obtained from a video on November 15, 2021. CCTV/via REUTERS THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN SUPPLIED BY A THIRD PARTY. NO RESALES. NO ARCHIVES.
Surveillance camera footage captured Perry’s cab ablaze after the blast (Picture: Reuters)
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He recalled the ordeal on Good Morning Britain (Picture: Ken McKay/ITV/Shutterstock)

‘It’s the only way to get through it,’ Perry added.

What worries Perry to this day is how different the blast would have been if Al-Swealmeen detonated his jerry-rigged bomb in the hospital itself.

Perry thinks him driving into the hospital entrance quickly before hitting the brakes inadvertently jolted Al-Swealmeen enough to trigger the bomb.

If he hadn’t, the bomb would have ‘wiped out all those babies and mothers’, Perry said.

‘The injuries to me are nothing. To live with yourself if a baby dies, I don’t think anybody could live with that, especially if it was a load of babies and mothers.’

Perry has not worked since the attack.

‘I want to get back in the taxi. A lot of people say “oh no you aren’t going to go back to that” and it sort of makes you more determined to go back to it, it’s a strange thing,’ he said.

Asked by Ben Shephard asked David how he felt about the bomber, he said: ‘I don’t feel anything about him. He was just another person.

‘Unfortunately, he was sick himself, had a few problems. He’s not in my memory, there’s not thought of him. I can’t remember his face.’

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